Is he fit to serve?

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Is he fit to serve?

by Usksider ^Pro @ Wednesday, 22. Nov, 2006 – 19:05:34

In a recent interview the chief constable of Dyfed-Powys police, Terry Grange, said that in his opinion young men who have sex with girls aged between 13 or 15 should not be classed as paedophiles. Grange went on to say that males aged up to 30 who had sex with post-pubescents should be exempt.

In my opinion this man is not fit to be a chief constable and his resignation should be sought as a matter of some urgency. I’d love to see some of his other ideas regarding policy and law change.

What do you think? Do Terry Grange's comments offer an open invitation for paedophiles and abusers?
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- lizdavies
- Wednesday, 22. Nov, 2006 @ 20:12:17
Yes. I can see the point if his reference refered to boys of a similar age, or a couple of years older, up to say 18 (ie. school sweethearts going a bit too far) but men in their 20's? No way. If it's genuine love, he'll wait a bit - if it's sex he's after, he can find a willing woman without predating on young adolescents.
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  - Thursday, 23. Nov, 2006 @ 06:25:33
  Absolutely. He may have had childhood sweethearts in mind, but extending the age range to cover men up to 30? I don't think so!
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- menhir
- Wednesday, 22. Nov, 2006 @ 20:15:50
Whilst he is opening up a debate about changing society's mores, this 'pillar of the community' is also, imho, offering vulnerable, impressionable pubescent girls, carte blanche, to any guy/s with proclivities that veer in the direction of wishing to use and service their pleasures with young girls - the man appears to have little knowledge of how such predators operate and function.

On the other side of the argument, though somewhat rarer, but nevertheless equally as relevant, how does this pronouncement deal with the issue of adult females who are attracted to young males?

Grooming is an insidious process and protective boundaries have to be drawn somewhere. I do not think our boundaries have just been drawn out of a hat, though I admit to ignorance about knowing the history relating to the ages that have been stated in law. There were of course protective laws drawn up between the late 1800's early 1900's to protect children from being sold into whore houses. We certainly do not wish to return to those risks and they are very real in this day and age, as they were over 100 years ago.

It is no accident, that the current age boundaries do happen to relate to the ages when young people are allowed in law, to marry. They also link in to the physical development of females to safely bear and give birth to babies. Emotional and psychological development is part of the equation too, but not the predominating argument.

If this officer is considering under-age sex between two youngsters of a similar age, then other factors do have to be accounted for, before a young boy,under age himself, is labelled a paedophile or a sex offender.

A course on what makes sexual predators tick (to put it bluntly) would be a good use of the Chief Constable's time. I wonder then, if he would be prepared to pronounce these types of views. Six months training and working full time with the over-stretched staff at The Faithfull Foundation would make a useful start on his rehabilitation.

His pronouncement raises question marks about where this officer's stance stems from! I do not believe it is just about statistics or youth crime; I suggest there may be other agendas here, some overt, some...?
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  - Thursday, 23. Nov, 2006 @ 06:37:44
  Interesting comment: opened my eyes a little wider.
  
  His pronouncement raises question marks about where this officer's stance stems from!
  
  Tes, I wondered about that too...
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- layreader1810
- Wednesday, 22. Nov, 2006 @ 21:54:44
It sounds like paedophiles are getting closer to becoming an alternative lifestyle in this politically correct age among certain people in authority or is it just another way of reducing crime figures. You know it reminds of that judge shouldn't dress in a certain way if they don't want to be raped! Everytime I hear comments like this I realise just how far out of touch with reality these so called leaders in society actually are!
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  - Thursday, 23. Nov, 2006 @ 06:41:49
  There's being out of touch and there's being downright dangerous. IMO this man is the latter. How the hell a man with such views ever became chief constable is beyond me: I'd have been adding his name to the list of 'men to keep an eye on' where young girls are concerned.
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- The_Walrus ^Pro
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- Thursday, 23. Nov, 2006 @ 08:10:33
Were any of you critics ever aged between 13 and 15?

You have not understood what this extremely sensible officer is saying, instead you have followed the usual knee-jerk of the red-top press.
- - menhir
  - Thursday, 23. Nov, 2006 @ 08:58:35
  Okay Walrus,
  
  What boundaries, if any, would you agree to?
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- - Usksider ^Pro
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  - Thursday, 23. Nov, 2006 @ 17:46:24
  Strangely enough yes, I was once aged between 13 and 15 and the thought of a 30 year old making sexual advances towards me would probably have freaked me out. Knee-jerk reaction? I don't think so: unless the knee is jerked somewhere extremely painful.
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- deleted user (Visitor)
- Thursday, 23. Nov, 2006 @ 12:53:38
Seems this one's got everyone going.

Have you seen this?:

http://stephi.blog.co.uk/2006/11/19/chief_constable_on_paedophilia~1346415

I listened to 'The Moral Maze' on Radio 4 last night while sitting in an airport. It was worth hearing. Perhaps you can get a replay from the BBC website. I haven't had time to look myself.

GB
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  - Thursday, 23. Nov, 2006 @ 17:56:20
  Thanks for the link GB, I hadn't seen Stephi's blog. Plenty of reasons why issues like this (and free heroin to adicts) should stir people up. They are emotive issues after all.
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